Drug group warns of morning glory seed use
Those morning glory seeds in your teenager's room might not be a sign of spring, but of drug abuse.
Last week, the Ohio Resource Network for Safe and Drug Free Schools and Communities sent an alert to 2,000 school, health and youth workers warning that teens were reportedly eating the seeds for an LSD-like high.
Spokesman Eric Hall said the Clifton-based organization issued the alert after receiving calls from northern Ohio parents and school officials noting the activity.
"Kids can get so creative, whether it's chewing seeds like this or using an inhalant. There is so much out there," Hall said.Hall said there was no indication of such activity in Greater Cincinnati, but the alert will warn parents of a potential danger they were likely unaware of.
"It's not just cocaine or marijuana you have to worry about," he said.
Dr. Loretta Novice, grant project director of the Northeast Community Challenge Coalition, which combats alcohol and drug abuse, said she didn't know of any statistics on the prevalence of teens eating the seeds to get high.
The little brown or black flower seeds of several varieties of morning glory contain a naturally occurring substance closely related to the hallucinogen LSD.
Although purchasing the seeds is legal, extracting and possessing the active ingredient, lysergic acid amide, is illegal.
Chewing the seeds can produce a hallucinogenic effect that is 5 percent to 10 percent as potent as LSD, according to the alert.
The most common active seed varieties are Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, Heavenly Blue, Pearly Gates and Flying Saucers. A pack of seeds can be bought for less than $2.
To prevent consumption, some are treated with chemicals that cause users to become ill if they ingest them. A high can be produced from 50 seeds or more.
The effects can last six to 10 hours. Nausea is a common side effect.
Eating the seeds can cause liver or neurological damage.
The Ohio Resource Network is asking the alert be distributed to local nurseries and flower seed outlets.
By Feoshia Henderson
posted by Pannyxeos at 4:11:00 PM
38 Comments:
Oh great just what we need another media outlet trying to use scare tactics to shock parents, preying on their fears of little Johnny sneaking off and getting high on the latest craze. Please people stop drawing attention to these sacred ancient psychedelics, helping to convince the government to ban them. It is very disrespectful to Native Americans who have a long history of religiously using morning glory seeds. If seeds fall into the seeds of some stupid child it is the parents' fault not the seeds. Blaming the seeds is as absurd as blaming television for corrupting children rather than blaming the parents who let the children watch it and ignore the children and fail to raise them with proper values. Does it ever occur to you people that there are adults out there who are capable of responsibly using hallucinogens? They shouldn't suffer because of some foolish children. Why not just make one prove they are 18 in order to buy the seeds eh? Hmm. No instead we must try to scare parents and rally them together to bitch at the government to eventually ban the seeds entirely. Native American's sacred drugs continue to be banned while the white man's poisons, alcohol and cigarettes, continue to be widely accepted and available everywhere. Something's obviously not right here. This is one worn out weary Native American signing off. Goodbye and good riddance to the white media.
I don't picture high school kids will run in droves to morning glory seeds. Some of the most common side effects are nausea and vomiting.
I've eaten thousands of them over a few years and unless you are the kind of person that can handle pretty constant stomach discomfort to outright projectile vomiting, you are very unlikely to ever try it more than once.
So why would someone continue? Because they ARE psychedelic- they are great for the person that wants to sit alone in the dark and discover the depths of their minds- they are terrible for partying or doing any thing that requires moving around. In other words, most teenagers would hate them.
These seeds have been continuously in use by native peoples for hundreds of years. The last thing we need is for grandma to get locked up for having morning glories growing on her fence- that is where dumb drug sensationalism lead to....(check the history of marijuana prohibition)
this type of 'journalism' is sickening to me. they overtly try to demonize these holy seeds by likening them to 'inhalants'. such a comparison is an obviously biased stance and is ridiculous to the rational mind. furthermore, morning glories have been used for time-untold as a sacred entheogenic passageway. i would wager that whoever wrote this article is totally ignorant of their symbiotic evolution with entheogens, and is concerned only with demonizing this beautiful creature. morning glory seeds contain introspection, imagination and patience. these things come at a price- the morning glory reseves the right to humble you with stomach pain if you approach it with ill intent. dont worry about protecting your children from morning glories. they know very how to protect them selves from your children.
I have to agree with the comments above me. In the United States today, it is assumed by our government that we no nothing about taking care of ourselves, but the fact is that there are thousands upon thousands of adults who are responsible enough to handle psychoactive substances. I don't want to advocate anything, but I believe there are even some teenagers who can be responsible as well. I did LSD for the first time when I was 17 and in the last 4 years I probably have done psychadelics 20 times. I have never hurt myself, I always had a sober sitter and never did anything to endanger myself or others. Everytime I do them, I don't want to use them for long periods, simply because the experience is so intense. I would bet that the author of this article and those who support this kind of ideology would never admit that a 17 year old kid could responsibly use some of the most powerful psychoactive substances in existence. As those above me have said, if the parents teach responsibility, there wouldn't be so many problems. But the government and media has been spewing its lies and propaganda for so long that not many people know the truth anymore.
You people are ridiculous hippies. No one is saying the seeds are evil. Seeds are inanimate objects and have no feelings anyway so who cares what is said about them? It's a good thing to let parents be more aware of what their teenagers are doing. We've all been teenagers and we all do things we dont want our parents to know about. But parents need to be informed if there is ANY amount of potential danger to their child. That's our one most important job. Grow up. And for God's sake do not have children until you are out of your hippie stage.
Hippie haters raise incorrigible children. I challenge their children to a debate with mine. Evil lurks in the recesses of the minds of the unaware and the quick to judge.
Your child is a stuck up Prick with no imagination...Let's see, ahh Simple minded.
"Hippy Haters"
Who is this "drug group"? And parents who do not teach their children safe usage of drugs, but instead harken to the old, worn out ways of abstinence are fools who put their children at greater risk.
You do not have to smoke a bowl with your kids, or trip on hallucinogenics to teach them not to be idiots about drug use.
If parents aren't responsible enough to explain to their children about the potential risks, legal and physical, of drug use, then how can they expect their children to be responsible when offered a substance they know nothing about (or even worse: the child might only know how it's been demonized by the government and stoic values).
Drugs kill people as much as guns do: YOU have to take the drug, or someone has to pressure you into doing so. Even drugs that are dangerous, such as cocaine and heroin.
MG and other psychedelics, when taken responsibly, can help with a lot of psychological and spiritual issues.
Respect what the Native Amerindians respected. They were here much longer than the rest of us.
MG seeds cured me of panic attacks and depression. I haven't used LSD or any other psychedelics, so I can only imagine what opportunity has been wasted by banning psychedelics from research and medical use, especially if MG seeds are only 10% of LSD power.
I would have never thought of using them on my own but since my parents "educated" me about their potential abuse, I think I will study up and give it a try. Hey, I'm a preacher's kid. I will do anything he tells me not to do if I so choose just to thank him for forcing his hipocritical religion on me and making me go to church. Why would you "warn" your kids about a legal substance they can get high on. Duh!
So companies spray unspecified chemicals that harm your body and make you sick to keep people from taking a natural mild psychedelic? Great solution haha. That's ridiculous. Why don't they add said chemicals to cigarettes, you know, an actual problem that affects the health of teens(and the millions of other smokers). No, instead of tackling a health deteriorating addiction we're gonna criminalize non addictive seeds and make the punishment for consuming the seeds as harsh as other schedule 1 drugs. Crack, Heroin, flower seeds. Psychedelics aren't social party drugs. They're introspective ego dissolving molecules that take the mind to a different plane.
People have to understand what is really happening from psychedelics if a substance has no potential harm or addiction to a user and has more benifit than a negative effect then it should not be thought upon as bad. If we cant understand the truth of thing s and we just follow propaganda and dogma we are just a bunch of people following what another person say because the majority of the world believes it. Whoever thinks these substances can create chaos in our society do the RESEARCH because you will find these psychedelics don't have any negative harm to people just benifit.
People have to understand what is really happening from psychedelics if a substance has no potential harm or addiction to a user and has more benifit than a negative effect then it should not be thought upon as bad. If we cant understand the truth of thing s and we just follow propaganda and dogma we are just a bunch of people following what another person say because the majority of the world believes it. Whoever thinks these substances can create chaos in our society do the RESEARCH because you will find these psychedelics don't have any negative harm to people just benifit.
people need to rise uup against the government they have pushed it too far. They are literally trying to lock our minds in the same sate? They give us 2 main legal highs that are both very harmful. Im really wondering why the gov't hates hallucinogens its Quite SHADY
Buitifuly spoken
I came up to this seeds accidentally. I read and tried to find out why those ancient shamans used it. my founding is quite scaring. prolonged use of these seeds, which contain Ergine, causes damage to neurons. in person with any depression or anxiety or any little kind of allergic problems, it causes serious provocation for the body and somehow makes it weak to fight against these diseases. 4 of my friends who tried this half year ago are still suffering with some mental pathologies that this seeds brought up. I myself went through medicines that I never needed before. I'm sport enthusiast and quite strong personality, who faced serious changes in mind just after one try with these seeds. I've did a lot of things in my life, but what these brought to me was nothing good at all. If I understood all that before eating them I would have never done that. I'm all the way on side of marijuana, time after time it's great relaxant and it never can be thread for us, however I'm totally against LSA. I found it very dangerous and total 5 person, including me, is very real indication for that. However some of us took it several times, but again me and one another just took it for one time, in quite small amount.
Chemist here.
Just a reminder. Psychedelic is the medically accepted term for Lysergic amides and variants. Psychedelic is defined as the expansion or growth of one's consciousness.
A love of drugs is not a bad thing. I know plenty of burnouts as well as successful coders in the bay area that partake in many drugs in various forms. Not understanding moderation and your own risk to addiction is bad.
The "Hippy Haters" as you call them will never understand that. They will use the substance as a scapegoat for their child's death, not their poor parenting and negligence all because in ignorance there is bliss.
Morning glories are a teacher, not really a recreational drug.
LSA and these seeds(like poppy seeds we put on bagels) are nontoxic to humans. Where's the medias sources? Wheres the scientific backup?
Nowhere. eat at free will and expand the mind young teens!
You, my friend knows what you are talking about.
It is because they are afraid of how smart one can get through a psychedelic.
There are medical properties able to be extracted from this plant. It is a purgative(makes you puke). And when synthesized correctly, will give you a MILD high. When one ingests these seeds, they are at most 10% the power of LSD.
They are effective at relieving anxiety, frustration, and uplifting depression.
Also, have you ever grown a morning glory vine? If you plant one seed, you will get at least 150 seeds back. So, imagine one pack of seeds. If these dumb teens knew this and were patient, they could grow their own seeds, without chemicals.
Nice blog, I would like to say Budbandits.com provides, LSA Seeds (Lysergic Acid Amide) is a psychedelic substance that occurs naturally in many plants. It has about 1/10 to 1/30 of the strength of LSD. There are similarities to LSD, but generally, it´s much less stimulating and can be sedating in higher doses.
LSA Seeds
Oh okay so they cause liver and nuerological damage... wait where are your sources? Oh you have none. That should be alcohols new warning "may cause liver and nuerological damage"
I think that you guys are right however keep in mind of the bad outputs as well as the benificual output. Just take it with understanding, just a ltitle bit can get you to see the picture. See what you want in your life chose a sweet cup, and give thanks for the little things in life.
a choise to have a sweet cup instead of a bitter cup is a gift it could stop you from killing your liver. I am going to say in in.my view that to an extent a law must be made. The reason is to keep something from destroying a good part of your mind in this case "liver damnage" or whatever outcome of the effect may be. We need to as a people find and give answers for things like the world or our way of life. So lets be there for others and care about what is going to make a good output not a bad one! :). taking a bitter cup is not worth it.... In my view, Look into it.
I myself am a 17 year old who is on these seeds right now and i never threw up or had any stomach issues it helped my anxiety and uplifted my spirit I use these seeds to meditate and the experience is amazing however I do not recommend to teenagers that are unaware so if this psychedelic was to be teached upon in the right manner there would be no harm.
Some parents have had the use it wisely talk, some kids just don't get it. After ingesting rubbing alcohol you'd think they would learn, but tonight he is green, puking his guts out, and trembling. Wonder if he'll sober up to walk across the stage at graduation. Some parents just need to know what their kid took so they can get them medical help if needed. The kids of today who use this kind of drug generally don't have the ability to use in moderation. In my kids case this is two years after rehab for over using every drug he tried.
Very very true but enjoy the hippie or experimental stage as much as you can cuz reality will kick in .Peace love and free will my friends.
Well said!
Well I am glad that I came across this article as I was searching to find what seeds we just found in my step sons pockets. He is making gimson from flowers or something and boiling and drinking it with his friends also.
Wow not cool ~ who's the "CHILD" name calling ~ are u @ recess?
FROM ONE NATIVE AMERICAN, TO ANOTHER...WELL SAID! AND I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE KIDS! I'M 71 YEARS OLD!
Evidently you don't get it. These seeds are completely OFF the parent radar. Its not a scare tactic but information.
Rationalize it any way you want to. It's what you do. But it's not your fault, you were raised that way. Too bad you weren't taught the importance of individuality or raised to be respectful to others beliefs...but just to force yours on everyone else.
And you're a circus clown. When the people you're calling a "ridiculous hippie" were kids, OUR parents PAID ATTENTION to what we were doing, where we went, and what we were talking about. Not like TODAY where you just throw the kid in front of a video game or PC and run off to do your thing and not be bothered. So don't you DARE start calling anyone anything. The reason we KNOW things is because we were actually TAUGHT and ACTUALLY MADE to pay attention. So get off your soap box.
I truly am so sorry....but you have to ask yourself... "what did I miss"? Because IF he tells you one day, and he might, I PROMISE your going to be shocked. NO ONE can be a perfect parent, but throwing kids in front of video games so you don't have to "deal" with them, then scream about how drugs and drinking are so wrong and will kill you...with no other explanation, which I'm sure is NOT what you did, Im sure you tried harder than that, is not trying to be a good parent. Parenting take enormous amounts of work. HARD work. And not that many people see it coming, or discover that they're just not the greatest at it. EVERYTHING has degrees.
Well.....you cunting circus clown, I have an MBA, AND a BA, and I have used Shrooms, Acid, Seeds, and weed, I bring home 1700 to 2200 dollars a week,.....OH YEAH!!....and I wasn't raised by a single minded pompus overbearing non parenting individual like you. And I have 2 sons.....who have BOTH tripped at one time or another...one is a "Day Trader" doing exceptionally well, and the other is a geologist. So get off your soap box and quit preaching. Go take some parenting classes....and hope YOUR glorious ass has a child that does so well. Piss off.
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